Disease contained a Can't You Hear Me Knocking tease. Stash and Bathtub Gin were unfinished. This show was released as part of the Hampton/Winston-Salem '97 box set.
Teases
Can't You Hear Me Knocking tease in Down with Disease
Debut Years (Average: 1992)

This show was part of the "1997 Fall Tour (a.k.a. Phish Destroys America)"

Show Reviews

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Review by waxbanks

waxbanks This show is overshadowed by the two weekend nights in Hampton, but can be talked about in the same breath. While this concert lacks that one revelatory cut like the 11/22 Halley's jam, 11/23's best-ever BEK and year's-best Stash > NICU set up an obscene 50-minute Gin > Disease > Low Rider > DISEEEEASE that constitutes the bulk of Set II (and is a longer run of true segues than anything from Hampton). You could uncharitably call the Gin monochromatic, but the more diplomatic rendering is 'patient' - and the Disease Reprise just turns the whole thing into liquid gold anyhow. Still, don't overlook the first set 'cause you're hung up on the Gin/Disease nastiness: BEK is a candidate for best Trey solo of the year (I pick 12/30's Taste, but...) and it's a wonder that this downright *evil* version of Stash didn't accidentally summon some demon creature. Or maybe it did - that'd explain what went down in Hartford, anyhow.
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Review by uctweezer

uctweezer You know you're listening to a Fall '97 show when you're lost in the middle of a profound, mind-bending jam -- and then it hits you:

You haven't even gotten to the second set yet.
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Review by Anonymous

(Published in the second edition of The Phish Companion...)

I arrived in Winston-Salem with my friend, Tom, about three hours before show time. We got lost on our way to the Coliseum and wound up taking some back roads into the parking lot.
The lot scene was a lot different than most that I have experienced. I didn't see a single nitrous tank (thank goodness!). There was a great amount of fun going on, though. I bought a grilled cheese sandwich from some guys from Auburn and stopped for a minute to check out the newlywed couple that was taking in their first show as husband and wife; the groom was still wearing his tuxedo! We checked out the drum circles and a few other musicians, as well as some bootleg T-shirts. I finally saw and met Antelope Greg, which was fun.
We didn't even try for the floor; I had a feeling that it would be way too chaotic. We settled into the section where the Greenpeace table was on Fishman's side and got ready for the show. As with most Phish concerts, I ran into some friends that I haven't seen in a while. The atmosphere was electric and the crowd was pumped. No doubt, those in attendance who weren't at Hampton had been briefed on how awesome the shows were, so everyone's expectations were high.
On to the show"..."My Soul" opened up and was fun. Long solos and a good warm-up. Theme was next, and I will never get sick of this song. Typically great "Theme" jam, which built nicely. At the end of "Theme", during the "wall of noise," Trey walked around the stage and signaled something to Mike and Fish. Out of the dissonance they broke into this fat, groovy jam that I figured had to be "Black-Eyed Katy".
Wow! I can't say anything else about this song. I'd like to say that it has "great potential" but it is already starting to realize it! "Sparkle" followed. Even though it wasn't my first choice of a song, it kept the crowd in a frenzy. A strong, solid "Twist Around" (my first) came next. I like this song a lot; anyone else get the feeling that it would sound awesome with horns?
Here is where the set took a huge left turn. The boys broke into "Stash", but it was more like the "`Stash of Death'," or the "Great Black `Stash'." The jam was more evil and dark and brooding than anything I have ever heard this band play. They played a bit with tempos and textures but always managed to maintain a strong, evil, dark theme. At one point, they were all locked into a group-groove jam and Chris turned off all of the lights except for a real thick purple. Slowly, he threw on some bright yellow darts behind them, which pierced through the purple veil. It was at this moment that I stopped dancing, shook my head, and realized once again that this band will never cease to amaze me, musically or visually.
After a while, Trey started strumming some familiar chords. I screamed out "NICU!" but Trey didn't seem to hear me! He hit the chords a few more times and I started to give up, figuring it was merely a tease. The band locked in, though, and segued beautifully into an outstandingly tight "NICU". "Fluffhead" followed. I hate to say it, but this was a pretty bad "Fluffhead". The entire composed section between "Clod" and "Bundle of Joy" was flubbed awfully. They made up for it with an awfully strong "Arrival," though, which Trey majestically tore through. At this point, I figured the set was over, but they treated us to a nice "Character Zero" to close.
The second set, though, was the absolute meat. I was hoping for a "2001" opener for my friend Tom, but I was more than glad to hear "Bathtub Gin". The jam will knock those liquor bottles off of your shelves! The jam started out like a normal "Gin" jam for several minutes until Fishman challenged the band and kicked in the tempo. The jam rose into a frenzy and went on for a long time. I wish I could describe it, but I probably couldn't do it justice. Rather than feature a lot of individual soloing, it featured band-based chordal jamming that played with tempo and a bit of syncopation. At one point, the style and situation were perfect for a segue into "Crosseyed and Painless", but it didn't happen.
The jam started to dissolve and Trey cued up Mike. Out of the fuzz came the "Disease" bass line. This "Disease" smoked as well! Again, the jam was very band-based as opposed to individually dominated. Out of the jam came the "Low Rider" theme in a different key than the original version. I figured it was just a nice tease and it made me smile, but Trey started singing! Then he stopped and cued up Fishman, who swung his mic around and picked up the vocals. After the "take a little trip" lyrics, the band launched into a "Low Rider" jam. From there, Trey started picking up the tempo, and we were suddenly back into the swirling "Disease" ending jam! They stretched it out for another few minutes and then told us they were on their way.
How could they top this? "Bold as Love"! Good-gawd! Chris's lights didn't disappoint, matching the lyrics of the song with bright, punchy colors. I'll never forget the smile that came over my face when those yellow lights came up during the second verse, and then the bright rainbow appeared over the stage. Beautiful vocals from Page and some searing guitar work from Trey closed out the second set.
The "Julius" encore was rocking. I think this song is the perfect encore; it keeps everyone dancing and sends everyone home with a smile. As usual, Trey kicked ass and slowly brought the jam up to infinite levels of happy soloing, and I left with a huge smile on my face. There was a group of fans on the floor and in the bottom seats off Page's side, and Trey looked like he was playing directly to them.
On the way out, we were stuck in a huge traffic jam. Suddenly, we saw the street that we had taken on the way in"...the "wrong" way! It turned out to be a great find, because there was no one else on it. We zipped out of the traffic and started on our way home, quite fulfilled after another stellar show.
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Review by MiguelSanchez

MiguelSanchez this one is a doozey. i acturally like it better than either night of hampton. there are some damn fine moments in hampton, but this second set really takes the cake.

the "over playing" of my soul is about the only thing one could complain about when it comes to fall 97 shows. this one is pretty solid. theme works well before squaring off on a damn good be katy. this should cycle this one back in every now and then. sure, moma dance shows up every third show or so, but there were some subtle differences. sparkle gets the crows going before a nice chill twist around gets funk machine rolling. then they rifle off a mean, dark stash. this one is a doozey. trey's playing is really sharp here. this segues nicely into nicu. a jumbled fluff head leads into a firey zero to close the set.

here is where this show really takes off. this gin is a monster. in my opinion, it's up there in my top 3 with worcester 95 and murat 93. granted, it's 3rd out of the 3, but that is some heady company. this gin is more of the rocking variety. they stick in gin territory for the first little bit, but once they start cruising, they don't look back. this eventually drifts into a lovely down with disease. this one starts out rocking before finding some very nice funky realms. low rider makes a brief appearance, before diving back into down with disease. axis and julius and solid but straight forward closers.

overall, this is one of my favorites from this tour; right up there with and in some cases surpassing my favorite shows of the tour, auburn hills, dayton, hampton, utah, etc. the gin jam is what really makes this one. after that monster everything else is gravy, including a down with disease jam that could have been the marquee highlight of almost any other show. the boys were not wiped out after hampton, as many assumed they would be. in fact, i think with a lot of heads skipping this show, they went out to try give something extra special to those that made it out.

highlights:

set 1:
be katy, stash>nicu

set 2:
gin-dwd, yes the whole thing
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Review by n00b100

n00b100 So if you somehow DON'T think 11/22 is the best Fall '97 show, there are a few acceptable (IMO) alternatives - 11/17, with its incredible 1st set and underrated 2nd set; 12/6, depending on how much one life-altering set overcomes the fact that the other set is *just fine* and nothing more; 12/2, which is gaining steam historically as a great show; and this show, which was officially released for a reason (well, a reason other than "it's the show the day after 11/22"), and was beloved by Fall '97 connoisseurs even before it got the remaster treatment.* I'd take 11/17 out of those choices, but would certainly not fault anyone who goes with this show; it is a bona-fide classic.

The first set doesn't really get going until BEK, a chunky slice of funkiness (w/rocket-fueled Trey solo) that I actually like as a Fall '97-only number, as we all think of Fall '97 as the funk tour and this is as pure a distillation of Phish's style that tour as you could ever want. After Sparkle and a low-key Twist, Stash immediately dives into the shadows and finds a really powerful, claustrophobic groove (Page's piano playing here is phenomenal), Trey's guitar actually taking on a race-car engine tone as the jam reaches its conclusion and opens up to let the music breathe a little. This jam isn't as multifaceted or plain epic as 7/2's definitive version, but it's easily one of the best ever, and the segue into NICU is a true surprise and a great burst of sunshine. The rest of the set is fine (although who doesn't like a 1st-set Fluffhead?), but the BEK and Twist/Stash/NICU make this an upper-echelon 1st set.

Gin opens up the 2nd set, and the Gin stays in Type I (albeit very well-played Type I) territory until things start speeding up, Page heads over to the organ, and Trey starts really piling on the wah-wahed riffs. The jam never gets out there, but the compressed energy is palpable as Trey really takes over and starts cranking out some real nastiness. Much like the Set I Stash, this jam is not for the faint of heart; it manages the neat trick of staying in a certain musical range but exploring every bit of that range for all it's worth. As the jam finally cools down, Page starts playing some high notes, Trey works some loops, and Mike's bass tone starts suggesting DWD.

And that is exactly what we get, a DWD that gives us some upbeat jamming out of the gate, then speeds up and gives Page another opportunity to take the lead, before out of nowhere Low Rider makes an appearance, Trey starting to sing before handing the vocals to Fish, a neat bustout in the middle of what had been a fine jam up to that point. The Low Rider jam then opens up and gets even funkier, then returns to rocking out and works its way back into DWD, just a glorious segue in a year where glorious segues were being handed out like a rapper handing out demo CDs. Bold as Love and Julius close out a tremendous set - maybe it doesn't explore as many areas as other sets, but the jamming here is top-notch and the set flows in a manner to rival any other Fall '97 show.

I would not go as far as to say this show is better than 11/22, but it's definitely the 2nd-best show of the run, and a strong contender for show of the year. The second set, in particular, is intense and should be heard as soon as you can get your hands on it.

* Why not 12/7, a show that can actually boast two consistent sets the whole way through? Because, to me, "consistent" is the key word - there is some astounding music in 12/7, but the actual sets never really go to another level the way 11/17 I or this second set do. I love 12/7 and listen to it constantly, so I hope you can appreciate how hard it is for me to say that.
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Review by Captain_Fantasy

Captain_Fantasy This is my dark horse pick for best show all tour. I might go as far as to say set 2 is my all-time favorite Phish set. It's hard to leave anything out of the highlights, but if I were forced to limit it to 4 songs each:

Set 1 highlights: theme > BEK (Trey is so zoned in on this), stash, fluffhead

Set 2 highlights: Gin -> DWD-> Low Rider -> Down with Disease

Scalding hot show
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Review by kipmat

kipmat I'm glad to see the glowing reviews of this show that have already been posted. IMO, this show is the best of the three that saw release on the Hampton/WS '97 box set (heresy!), and gives 11/17 good competition for best show of the tour. Theme and Twist are overlooked gems in the first set, and the performance of BEK is a vast improvement over the Hampton and Vegas versions, although it would be topped on it's next performance in Worcester. As for the second set, I could use words like "hot", "impeccable", "triumphant", "perfection", but really, you get the point by now.

I love how, during the intro to Julius, Trey stops to listen to the crowd clapping on the off-beat, then begins playing the guitar line so the crowd is clapping on the down-beat! What a great band, what a show.
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Review by Cheard

Cheard Anyone else go to Ziggy's across the street and see moe. after this show? Fun night.
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Review by papadance

papadance Great review above. During Julius Trey was looking at someone. There was a girl up on some guys shoulders. She was pretty hot and seemed to be turned on. Trey rocked that chick's world with his guitar solo for about 8 minutes. I swear he got her off all over the back of that dudes head. Unreal. He never took his eyes off of her.
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Review by HighNote

HighNote The 15+ min Soundcheck Jam is a very worthwhile listen of spacey exploratory jamming and can be found on Hampton/Winston-Salem '97.
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Review by Cheard

Cheard Not sure why going to see phish and moe on the same block in winston-salem is so negative. Why -2?
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Review by Overburdened_Horse

Overburdened_Horse This was my first show. Looking back, I had no clue what to expect, as I had only listened to a few of the studio albums thus far. I had gotten separated from my crew of UNCW freshmen on the drive up and no amount of pre-show searching found them, so I sat in the back to listen to the show. What Energy! the crowd, the Band, The lights, what world did I step into? After a first set filled with jams like I 'd never heard, I went to the restroom at setbreak and who was in line right in front of me but my next door neighbor from Wilmington, Marcus! I've heard of these things happening at Phish shows now, but back then my mind was blown!, we proceeded down to about 30-40 people back Page side for the unbelievable second set. I had found my friends, and a band I'll never forget. It's pretty cool to have wandered into Phish in Fall '97.
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Review by BornXEyed

BornXEyed ate some microdots pre-show, by fluffhead i was consumed and then the second set was blast off. great memories of this show well spent with friends. this was an "awakening show" for me personally. tough to listen back on it actually as the memories prove stronger than the playback. still a glorious performance. but man, those fall 97 microdots...
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Review by nopotatoes

nopotatoes Nice strong 1st set. The other comments about BEK are valid...some of the tastiest lead licks you'll ever hear Trey dig in on. The band clearly enjoyed playing the song, especially since it was played the night before at Hampton. Would love to see Moma dissolve back to BEK someday. The peaks are really phenomenal in this version. Stash of Death is a pretty accurate description of the evil that came along and then morphed into NICU. Even as NICU is starting up, Trey has the main lick going and the rest of the band is allowing the evil from Stash linger and slowly fade out instead of having a harsh stumble between songs...a true segue without any awkwardness.

I was amazed by the 2nd set throwdown at this show. Being about 5 people deep from the front of the stage and watching Trey stare at the ceiling while shredding this Gin will always be one of the highlights of my Phish experiences. Don't know how he didn't kill his Wah pedal from the workout he gave that thing. This will always be my favorite 2nd set that I've ever seen. As a guitarist, I've never seen anything else like it. The DWD was fantastic and the build into the DWD reprise jam coming out of Low Rider was especially tasty. They didn't rush any of it and the natural pacing was really nice with the added treat of the additional speed at the end.

I would love to see this show released as a soundboard someday. There's got to be so much more nuance in the layers of sound being created than the AUDs can reveal. Fish's drumming was breakneck speed and had to be to keep pace with Trey's shredding. Mike set up a solid bedrock and Page had such nice piano washes all the way around this show, especially the jams. If there's a show that should be a top contender for LP release, this is my vote.

I remember an article from Rolling Stone on the top 100 guitarists in 2003 and a segment where Trey talked about listening to Hendrix's Machine Gun every night before the shows on this tour. If you listen to this Gin and DWD, then the Machine Gun influence can definitely be heard all over it. In hindsight this show is almost Trey's homage to Hendrix. Amazing.
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Review by Campster

Campster Like the previous 2 nights, Phish managed to throw down another classic. You could certainly place this one as the best show of the run if you wanted to. I won't, but the margins are razor thin.

Set I opens with My Soul giving us the least awesome opener of the three nights. (sure it's going up agains a monster Mike's and a long Emotional Rescue...)

Theme From the Bottom is in the two spot, and this version soars. It's awesome, and certainly noteworthy.

>Black Eyed Katy, which is the best version of all time. Yes, this is perfection. Explosive full band peak. Rock out shred fest whatever other hyperbole I could throw out wouldn't be enough. This is the only version.

Sparkle is a nice comical blip on the setlist.

Twist isn't overly long, but it's good, dark, and serious. This is a great version. The "in the box" versions of songs were just better in '97 that's a fact. This is good and funky.

Stash is up next and represents the antithesis of the wonderful Ventura '97 release version. This is great and dark and complex. Highly recommended for a reason. So so good. It also has a cool -> NICU

NICU rescues us from the darkness in a fun danceable way.

Fluffhead? Oh yea. Great call, giving us that Phish X-Factor. Awesome.

Character Zero gives Trey the requisite platform to perform more Hendrix style throw-down riffs. It's a nice exclamation point.

Is this the best first set of the run? (probably in any other year!) Seriously it's a great first set.

Set II kicks of with Gin.

This is a big long monster of a Bathtub Gin. It has a great type I jam section and an even better ensuing arena rock jam anchored by just explosive shredding from Trey (and the immaculate stylings of a Mr. Jon Fishman). The shred fest lasts a long time too! They settle into a space funk jam towards the end for a few glorious minutes as well before the bubbling DWD intro kicks in.

DWD is incendiary. This version drives hard, rocking away, before finding a nice funky space which slides easily into Low Rider, which in turn finds its way perfectly back into Down With Disease. It's an amazing segment. The fact that it is not marked up on the setlist as a "Noteworthy Jam" is comical. Whoever determined to not award it such distinction should have their head examined. It's disgraceful. OK seriously though this is awesome music and the whole run through the Disease reprise is true segue perfection.

Bold As Love is an awesome closer choice and completes another 4 song second set from the era.

Julius encores in fun fashion. Nice and loose.

Overall 5/5 - again this one is up there with the best. For some reason, I don't think the Gin seems to get its due (as a top version of all time - top 5). Best box set ever, and this show stands with the rest as legendary.

P.S. Whoever makes the setlist annotations - please mark the DWD->LR->DWD as notable. Please. How is it not noteworthy?
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Review by sprobeck

sprobeck What stands out to me the most about this show is the Down With Disease which is absolutely stellar! The proceedings end with an explosive Bold as Love and Julius.
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Review by spreaditround

spreaditround My Soul: Standard.

Theme From the Bottom: Mike compliments Trey exceptionally well during Trey’s solo. Perfection. Amazing how they can play off one another so well. Page with big effects in the mid 7’s compliment all of this nicely. >

Black-Eyed Katy: Longest version of the 7 ever played and the best too. 7:58 – 8:15 Trey is utterly on fire. Mesmerizing guitar playing. He goes on from here to utterly burn the LJVMC down to the ground. An absolute arena rock clinic. Trey in his prime doing Trey things!!!

Sparkle: Standard.

Twist: Great work from Page on the baby grand but this should not be a jamcharts version. >

Stash: Crazy early peak at 8:42 with Trey trilling like a mad man. At 10:45, Trey’s intent is clear. Get as dark and evil as quickly as possible. In the 12’s and 13’s Trey opts for that high pitched guitar tone effect while Page lays down scary effects and Mike is owning with big time bombs. Fishman is just crushing it throughout, driving the bus with extremely aggressive playing. All the while, the tension continues to ramp up and up and up. Things get about more than you can take, and then Trey for some strange reason starts strumming on NICU. It takes the band a good 38 seconds to relent but in the end they do just that and accept the segue. This was a look into the future of ADD 3.0 Trey. Still, this is a fantastic Stash all the same but could have been one of the best ever if completed. ->

NICU: Standard.

Fluffhead: Kind of sloppy in parts (Trey). >

Character Zero: Standard.

SET 2:

Bathtub Gin: Very raw jam. Much of it seems on the brink of flying off the wheels. Trey seems to be doing his own thing for a lot of it, playing the rock star and just shredding for shreddings sake alone. Fishman I will say is awesome as is Mike to a slightly lesser extent. They keep this jam from going into the abyss. By the 20 minute mark, Trey is coming down some and reconnecting with his mates. This section is brief though and things don’t truly settle until the 26 minute mark. This is about the most aggressive playing you will hear from Trey for this extended amount of time. I would recommend this jam for that alone. I love the theme that Trey creates at 26:55. The segue for DWD is set up a good 30 seconds in advance ->

Down with Disease -> Low Rider -> Down with Disease: Can't You Hear Me Knocking tease at 9:36. Great jam that precedes the Low Rider section. They really do drop into this Low Rider out of thin air. Communication on stage must have been all verbal. Great stuff and awesome segue! Trey doesn’t know the lyrics so he puts it on Fish and he makes a gallant effort, lol! The jam is thick as funk!!! Gooey. Signature Fall 97. Great micro jam and the segue back into Disease is fantastic.

Bold As Love: Trey absolutely destroys his solo. Rock God.

ENCORE:

Julius: Ripped up the front and down the back! Smoking encore.

Summary: Another awesome show with two heavy hitter highlights and two other strong ones. The current rating seems on the money to me: 4.581/5 (389 ratings)

Replay Value: Theme From the Bottom, Black-Eyed Katy, Stash, Bathtub Gin
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Review by JerrysMissingFinger

JerrysMissingFinger Set One Notes:
I’m going to be honest right off the bat. I’m pretty neutral on the My Soul opener. I mean, it’s got some good energy to it, Trey is definitely fired up, but there is no way that it was ever going to surpass the openers of the last two nights. It doesn’t need to compete though. Spoiler alert: this becomes a great first set. Theme From The Bottom emerges, and something about it being in the two-spot gives me definite “Sunday Show” low-key energy to me. This is such a soaring song, building from underwater into the clouds. This is great Type-I, the band fundamentally locked in around Trey, but with Trey being diverted into whatever path they lay. I begin to feel like the band sounds like they are pretty baked, in a performance enhancing way (depending on your tastes, of course…), but maybe I’m just heavily projecting. BEK comes out after that thing-of-beauty Theme, and let’s get the fuck down. The groove feels like a down-the-rabbit-hole party in a field of chilled out wiggling flowers. Trey has such command of his right-hand pick attack and its influence on the tone, and yes, this is the best BEK up to this point in the tour, without a question, and may very well stay in that position. Sparkle is the happiest terrifying song out there. When Twist pops out it feels nice, and I’m down for it. This is a song purpose-built to jam, a textbook representation of the sound that Phish was trying to achieve in 1997. Twist is designed to allow the band to get Out There, to that place that ’97 Phish goes, quickly and efficiently, in this, in a strong but compact package. It surely doesn’t feel compact though, getting way groovier and spacier than its ten-minute timestamp would suggest. Stash is a nice call after the space opened up by that Twist, a great place to arrive, usually promising a tense, gripping ride. The band sounds wide open in the first half of the jam, not too tangled-manic-crazy, but tense nonetheless. This jam starts to melt into intermingling strands of weirdness that begin to knot. The jam gets moody-muddy-heavy, Page high-steppin’ gingerly over the bubbling pits of murk below. Digital insectoids are on the prowl, hunting, surrounding. Trey’s guitar emerges from the weirdness as the only light, the intensity around him building. The band begins to levitate upwards out of the dark pit they have sunken into, emerging into NICU’s light. NICU begins to crawl its way outwards, Mike exhibiting his willingness to be patient in order to inspire maximum weirdness in this smooth ->. This is a great contrasting song choice after that Stash Deep Weirdness, the band reemerging as just your friendly old funky white-boy rock quartet. Next up is a great Fluffhead placement, I always love this song to end a set. I love the tight composition of Fluff’s Travels, weaving through intricate twists and turns. The band is in pretty tight control here, and I am always stoked to reach Clod, such a cool emergence. Life is just a bundle full of joy, of course, and we get a great bursting of energy into Arrival, with great Trey tone and intention. Of course, as I quickly learned, Fluffhead was not the set closer, with Zero surprising me as it started up. I’ll always take another song. This is one of the longer first sets of tour so far. Mike joins in with Trey’s fun, laying it on thick. Great set overall, top class.

Set Two Notes:
Bathtub Gin opens, Page in some kinda mood right out of the gate. Gin is giving me that low-key Sunday night vibe again as an opener call here. Over time, the “Gin”-bottom starts to drift away. At this point, I’m still having that theory that the band was smoking some dank herb that night between sets, with this jamming being a little hazy, patient, and slowly unfolding, as it feels it should… maybe I’m just projecting again. The jam soon evolves into tetrahydro-Hendrixian hose, with greasy clav dripping behind. This raging jam, one that just keeps growing and growing in waves of full-on energy, harkens back to 11/17’s DWD jam, that tripped-out high-octane upshifting style. The band rides these waves until the jam is totally out to sea, days away from land at this point. Fishman is pounding away like an absolute drum-cyborg. “The musical insight of a man, the precision and intensity of a machine. Ladies and gentlemen, the Fishman 2000.” The band begins to tune in extraterrestrial radio waves on the comedown, Mike’s bass grunting below Fish 2K’s light groove, floating between rich stereo Page and sharp Trey. Funk sirens start whizzing by, and the jam becomes light and bouncy. The jam does a great job of melting into a puddle on its way out, reconstituting into DWD. DWD is a great high-energy return to reality, and this one is full of hard-raging up-tempo jamming, but in that twisty-melty Fall ’97 way. “Mike is laying it down!” a friend says, as the band twists its way upward in high-speed wah-chuckin’. Trey leads into Low Rider, Mike says no to singing, and Fish 2K takes the vocal reins. The crowd sounds way into it. The band is having fun here, blowing off the head of steam that needed to burst after that DWD. The jam descends into low-slung funk, the cows coming home, so to speak, true galaxy-glazing funk at that, an enveloping groove to look outwards into. The Rocker Guitarman soon emerges, chunky-rock riffs getting set down onto the space groove, leading a charge back into the ending section of DWD. It’s a nice touch to finish the song, and I always like to see the loop closed after a long stint of jamming. Bold As Love brings the Hendrixian axis into focus, a nice Sunday night closer. I love the way that Bold As Love quits and then fires back up, closing with some soaring guitar work. “Man, that whole set was like one seamless jam!” a friend comments. Its true. I really dig that set, it’s so loose and jammy, and the band seems truly relaxed on stage, willing to let the music flow as it will, unwilling to give up on ideas until they hook-up and show their full potential. Julius is a great big-band exit. The band squeezes every drop out of this Type-I rendition, conjuring some nice zero-gravity moments as they approach the peak.

This is truly a great show. In the Hampton/Wintson-Salem weekend, Winston-Salem is, to me, the Lhotse to 11/22’s Everest. That’s 27,940 ft. (8516m). Relative magnitude is quite different than global magnitude.
, attached to 1997-11-23

Review by MiguelSanchez

MiguelSanchez this one is a doozey. i acturally like it better than either night of hampton. there are some damn fine moments in hampton, but this second set really takes the cake.

the "over playing" of my soul is about the only thing one could complain about when it comes to fall 97 shows. this one is pretty solid. theme works well before squaring off on a damn good be katy. this should cycle this one back in every now and then. sure, moma dance shows up every third show or so, but there were some subtle differences. sparkle gets the crows going before a nice chill twist around gets funk machine rolling. then they rifle off a mean, dark stash. this one is a doozey. trey's playing is really sharp here. this segues nicely into nicu. a jumbled fluff head leads into a firey zero to close the set.

here is where this show really takes off. this gin is a monster. in my opinion, it's up there in my top 3 with worcester 95 and murat 93. granted, it's 3rd out of the 3, but that is some heady company. this gin is more of the rocking variety. they stick in gin territory for the first little bit, but once they start cruising, they don't look back. this eventually drifts into a lovely down with disease. this one starts out rocking before finding some very nice funky realms. low rider makes a brief appearance, before diving back into down with disease. axis and julius and solid but straight forward closers.

overall, this is one of my favorites from this tour; right up there with and in some cases surpassing my favorite shows of the tour, auburn hills, dayton, hampton, utah, etc. the gin jam is what really makes this one. after that monster everything else is gravy, including a down with disease jam that could have been the marquee highlight of almost any other show. the boys were not wiped out after hampton, as many assumed they would be. in fact, i think with a lot of heads skipping this show, they went out to try give something extra special to those that made it out.

highlights:

set 1:
be katy, stash>nicu

set 2:
gin-dwd, yes the whole thing
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